Every New Player Should See This!

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DO NOT DO THESE THINGS:

1. Making a Night Lord OR Buccaneer FIRST character

(Night Walker/Thunder Breaker are easier, FASTER lvling, more dmg for first 200 levels)

2. Turning in ANY of Ephey's weeklies before lvl 30
(see Custom Features)

3. Not claiming your OP Pink Tube in Ephey Milestones after 2nd job adv.

4. Using Auto Assign AP

(See Ability Points)

5. Not getting married ASAP
(see Make $$$)

6, Not following a guide for your class

7. Not Poison Training if you class can

(See Leveling Progression)
Getting Started
Level Fast, Naturally strong, Flashy
ST = single target
Cleave = multi target skills
Stance = immune to being knocked around​

ClassPROSCONS
Blaze Wizard
(Cygnus Knight)
Fastest leveler in entire game (Best Mobbing)
Cleave God (excels at Horntail, Zakum, Empress)
50% Stance (2 min up time)
Teleport (Great APQ mule)
Fire element
Can neutralize against fire resistant
Weak single target dmg + No bossing buffs = unwanted for Daily Bosses
Stance is 50% + 5 min cooldown
Magic Guard can be dispelled by Server bosses
Thunder Breaker
(Cygnus Knight)
Good Mobbing
Cleave God (excels at Horntail, Zakum, Empress)
100% stance
Desired
bossing buff (Speed Infusion)
Mediocre Single target dmg
Stance requires charging
Night Walker
(Cygnus Knight)
Highest unfunded bossing damage
High Avoid in place of stance
Fastest 80-120 leveling (3 hours)
Desired DPS for bossing
Flash Jump at 2nd Job (great APQ mule)
Slow leveling 120+ (same as other non-mage explorers)
No bossing buffs
Dawn Warrior
(Cygnus Knight)
Great cleave AND ST damage
Great Mobbing skills
Permanent Stance (no down time)
Scuffed Flash Jump
No Bossing Buffs.
Ice Lightning Mage
(Explorer)
Good mobbing for leveling
50% stance (2 mins)
Teleport (great APQ mule)
Weak single target dmg + No bossing buffs = unwanted for Daily Bosses
Stance is 50% + 5 min cooldown
Magic Guard can be dispelled by Server bosses
Why Leveling Fast Matters?
  • The game is essentially Bossing past 130
  • Bossing is the Biggest and & best consistent EXP & money
    • if you don't like Mage Story
Playing Bishop is great utility (door & Holy Symbol) guarantees you get into Daily bosses, but...
  • Painfully Slow leveling until 4th job
    • but fastest leveling 120-160
  • Great for leveling new characters & farming
  • 2nd job's Heal skill great mobbing at MP3
  • Angel Ray 40 costs a lot for a noob (90m as of 07/24/22)
  • Teleport (great APQ mule)
  • Most demanded party & bossing buff
These are not BAD classes, but...
Night Lord
  • NO REASON to play this when Night walker:
    • does more damage
    • 10x faster levelling
    • gets flash jump 2nd job instead of 3rd
  • Only good for Meso Up or being Sed
  • No bossing buffs
Shadower
  • No bossing buffs
Hero
  • Has amazing cleave damage
  • Permanent Stance
  • No bossing buffs
Dark Knight
  • Can deal 2x dmg, but..
    • requires constant attention to HP
    • Slow leveling unless apple roaring 80 to 140
    • Terrible bossing damage until 153 & funded
  • Permanent Stance
  • Demanded HP party buff
Paladin
  • Can remove CMA/CWA (4th job)
  • Fire, Ice, Lightning element at 3rd job
  • Permanent Stance
  • No bossing buffs
Corsair
  • gets cute battleship
  • can glide slowly from high places
  • No bossing buffs
Buccaneer
  • No reason to play this when Thunder Breaker:
    • levels 10x faster
    • does way more damage prior to 200
    • only play this if you want to get Time Leap for community service
  • Rarest bossing buff
F/P Mage
  • No reason to play this when Blaze Wizard exists
  • Weak single target damage unwanted for bossing
  • No bossing buffs
Wind Archer
  • Good cleaving AND ST damage
  • Holy element at 3rd job
  • Stance
  • Needs a lot of SP to max out cleave, ST, stance, AND SE buff
  • Highly demanded bossing buff
Bowmaster & Marksman
  • Ask Plop & Milo
  • Huge single target damage
  • No stance (unlike Wind Archer)
  • Highly Demanded Damage party buff
I am telling you what you NEED to hear NOT what sounds good "pLaY AnYtHiNg yOu wAnT"​
Less secondary stat = More funding required later
Mages
  • Pour everything into INT to be OP
  • Nothing significant requires LUK until lvl 100
    • You will be rich by lvl 100 if you do APQ to afford LUK gear
Warriors
  • Pour everything into STR to be OP
    • BUT you will need to BEG for
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      Baskets or you will MISS everything
  • End game gear does not require DEX
  • Only add DEX if you want to wear
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    Stone Tooth Sword (lvl 100) for 40 levels lol
Everyone else
  • Add secondary stat, but no more than 50 BASE amount
    • I recommend just adding from lvl 90 to 100 (50 AP)
  • AP Reset it when you're around lvl 150
ClassPrimary StatSecondary Stat
WarriorSTRDEX
BowmanDEXSTR
MageINTLUK
ThiefLUKDEX
KnucklerSTRDEX
GunDEXSTR
THIS IS ALL YOU NEED, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS

Level1-3030-6464-100100
Weapon
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Beginner JOB Weapon
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Pink Flowered Tube
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Maple 64 Weapon
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3rd Job Weapon
GearSecondary Stat Gear
DO NOT GET LVL 50 ZAK HELM its a SCAM,​
  • Automatically receive from 1st Job Advancement
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Ephey (O)->Milestone Rewards>Next
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  • This is the BEST weapon for your class until lvl 64
    • scroll if the 60s are cheap for your weapon type
    • ONLY mages can claim this before 2nd job advancement
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Ephey (O)->PQ Rewards Shop>Lv 64 Maple Weapon

  • You accumulate 50 PQ points from clearing PPQ to buy the right weapon(s) for your class
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Buy/Loot the weapon for your class>Scroll it with 60% (Hammer)
Note: requirements refer to secondary stat only, you should have more than enough primary stat to wield these
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    (Lvl 102) Doomsday Staff (Requires 80 LUK) OR (Lvl 100)
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    Dimon Wand (Requires 100 LUK)
    for Bishop
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    (Lvl 103) Elemental Staff 1 (REQUIRES 105 LUK) for F/P Mage & Blaze Wizard
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    (Lvl 103) Elemental Staff 4 (REQUIRES 105 LUK) for I/L Mage
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    (Lvl 100) Crimson Arclancer (REQUIRES 115 STR) for Wind Archer & Bowmaster
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    (Lvl 100) Any Neschere (REQUIRES 100 STR) for Marksman
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    (Lvl 85) Sky Ski (NO REQUIREMENTS) OR (Lvl 100)
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    Stormshear (NO REQUIREMENTS) for Dark Knight
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    (Lvl 100) Stonetooth Sword (REQUIRES 120 DEX) OR (Lvl 90)
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    Devil's Sunrise (NO REQUIREMENTS) for Hero, Dawn Warrior, & Paladin
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    (Lvl 100) Red Craven (REQUIRES 120 DEX) for Night Lord & Night Walker
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    (Lvl 100) Blood Dagger (REQUIRES 140 DEX) for Shadower
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    (Lvl 100) King Cent (REQUIRES 100 DEX) for Thunder Breaker & Buccaneer
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    (Lvl 100) Concerto (REQUIRES 100 STR) for Corsair
APQ is how you get insanely rich as a NOOB from lvl. 50+
Do this every day until you unlock the next money-making method.​

  • After playing for a couple days, I was lvl 80 with only 800k...
    • After 30 mins of APQ, I got 5 Onyx Apples (20 million mesos)
    • Get lucky and you could make upwards of 50 million mesos a day! (12 apples)
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    Onyx Apples are worth ~4m as of 11/22/22
Requirements for APQ:
  • Married (lvl 50+)
    • Wedding Ticket (20k NX/Maple Points)
      • only one person buys
    • Wedding Ring Quest
      • only one person does this quest
      • Diamond + Silver/Gold Plate (just ask fm)
        • NO NEED Moon Rock
    • A partner (can multi-client)
  • Make 2 separate accounts
  • 1 for Blaze Wizard & 1 for Nightwalker
    • Teleport & Flash Jump is good for getting Apples
  • Get to lvl 50 on both
  • Spend 20K Maple Points from weeklies on 1 Wedding Ticket
  • Marry each other (multi-client)
  • APQ every day on both characters for double the Onyx Apples
Bossing
Get Inkwell Coins from bossing -> turn in for White Scrolls​
Keep in mind you need to reach your dmg threshold (green for slang) to receive coins. So use Onyx Apples/Ssiws cheese if you're low level.
130+
  • nzak + krex (18 coins/day)
140+
  • Czak (36 coins/day)
  • FULL dailies (36 coins/day)
    • nzak + krex + wulin + toad
BUT you need enough hp to tank the ranged attack of these bosses (see HP for Bossing)
  • You will need to ask for hyper body (1.6 x your HP)
  • Mages
    • use Ginger Ales or Power Elixir
    • set your auto hp pot to 100%
    • Check if 20% of the boss's ranged attack is more than your HP
      • this is how much HP dmg you will tank when Magic Guard is up (always up or you're idiot)
  • Remember to double click HP scrolls from nzak/czak to increase max HP (replaces HP washing)
160+
  • nCht (64 coins/day)
    • normal horntail + chaos horntail
P.S. All these bosses have 2 runs each.
Price Checking
Allison's DreamMS Price Guide

OR

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Owl (300 NX)
  • shows all listings for an item in Free Market
Essentials
Teleport to Free Market from anywhere
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Teleport to Free market
from *almost* anywhere
Claim these rewards in Ephey (O)>Milestones>Next

  • The Pink Tube will automatically be in your 2nd job's weapon type
    • Scroll & use this until lvl 64
  • Save the INSTANT 2x EXP coupon for leveling from 90 to 120
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  • You can also buy some of these items from Cash Shop
  • Cider - 20 ATT for 11k mesos is a STEAL
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    Miu Miu Traveling Merchant (portable NPC that sells nearly ALL potions, recharges stars, sells arrows, nearest town scroll)
    • Useful when mobbing to sell items
  • Scissors of Karma is how to make untradeable items tradeable
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Click button or hit left bracket [ on your keyboard
Widgets tab tracks:
  • EXP/hr
  • Mesos/hr
  • Damage/hr
  • Loot Log
  • Monster Info (elemental weakness)
  • Ping/FPS
Clients tab changes:
  • Resolution
  • Window/FullScreen/Borderless
  • Modern Skill Animations (POGGERS)
Notifcations tab changes:
  • Duration of notifcations
NO HP Washing & Free Leech
Assuming you're from another BBB server like Royals or Legends, some of that knowledge is not viable here
  • No HP washing - HP scrolls from bossing give ~500 HP each (20 total)
  • Leech is Free - click here to see how leeching works
  • KPQ, EPQ, CPQ2 are dead
  • ALL Gachapons are relocated in the house on the far right of the Free Market
  • No need to make mage to get rich
    • APQ for apples & boss for White Scrolls
  • Don't buy Lvl. 50 Zakum Helmet, it costs as much as lvl.100 CZAK helm
  • Server maintenance is rare and only takes 15 minutes
  • Most classes have been rebalanced, see changes here
NO APQ lava stage
  • Disconnect in PQ's & Bosses and reconnect with no problem
  • No lava stage in APQ
  • Access ALL Party Quests in Dimensional Mirror of each major city (APQ,RNJ,PPQ,CPQ,TOZPQ,etc)
  • Voting on multiple accounts is ALLOWED here
  • 4th job adv. skip Manon & Griffey kill with 10m (works for KoC as well)
  • All equips/clothes can be worn by both genders
  • All Pet equips can be worn by any pet
  • High Mob density & respawn rate
  • Faster movement on ropes & ladders
  • Access APQ & RnJPQ in Dimensional Mirror
  • No JQ for Resurrection Skill Quest
  • Kill 1 mob in HTPQ for Life Root (Genesis skill quest)
  • Explorer tutorial is very short <5mins
    • AP is automatically dumped into STR, and auto-resets at 1st job adv.
  • Can send Party & Guild invites to people on different channels
Click here to see more
90% of Noobs miss out on 30k FREE NX
DO NOT TURN IN PRIOR TO LVL 30, YOU WILL GET NOTHING
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Ephey's Weeklies

Click lightbulb above your head and pick 7 quests before lvl 30​
Recommended -
  • Save all 7 to turn in at Lv. 50 (10%) to skip to Lv. 55
    • the only exception is if you don't hit lvl 50 by the next Sunday, 7am (PST)
    • lvl 50-55 is horrible
Not Recommended -
  • Turn in all 7 at Lv. 30 if you are desperate for NX
  • If you turn in anything before lvl 30 you're an idiot.
More detailed info here.
Spending NX Wisely

  1. Wedding ticket @ lvl 50 to get rich quick from APQ
  2. Pet + Pet Equips (especially Auto HP and MP pot)
  3. Expand inventory slots (do this when you reach gallos)
Daily Voting for NX (7.5k per account)
Multiple Votes per day (yes you are allowed)
  • Use different accounts (switch your IP by airplane mode on >airplane mode off)
Vote 7 days in a rows
  • Custom Chairs
  • Custom Cash equips
Free Double XP Buff (daily)
  • Smega "J>Cash Fam lvl 25" as often as you can
    • replace 25 with your level
    • Ask in Free Market ch1 or to everyone you meet
    • Once you are in Cash Fam, you can receive Bonds once a day
      • Bonds - Double EXP/Drop for 1 hour (popped frequently)
      • now all juniors you add will also be in Cash Fam
Reps is the currency for buying XP & Drop buffs
  • accumulated when your senior or juniors kill mobs or level up
  • people can use their reps to gift you XP & Drop buffs if you pay them.
  • Make 2 separate accounts
  • Make one character on each account
  • Have the one you will be playing more, add the one you will be playing less as junior
  • Leveling/mobbing to give reps to other character
Note: You level up twice instead of once per RnJ PQ from levels 70-82 if using Double XP.​
Resources
Transparent weapons
Make any weapon Transparent (Credits to Five from Notorious)
  • Buy a NX weapon that does NOT support your weapon type
  • Ex: Wearing a a staff-only NX weapon on top of a claw
Vote for NX daily WITHOUT logging in
Fastest way to Magatia/Ariant (Lvl 70+)
  • Dimensional Mirror>RnJPQ>nearest town scroll (Magatia)
    • Take camel taxi one map right to go to Ariant
Fastest way to Victoria Island (Lvl 50+)
  • Dimensional Mirror>APQ>nearest town scroll>Thomas Swifty>Henesys
Fastest way to Ludibrium/Korean Folk Town (Lvl 45+)
  • Dimensional Mirror>EPQ>nearest town scroll>2nd to last portal on the right>go in portal on the right
    • Go in door>climb down Helios Towerto Korean Folk Town
    • Nearest town scroll to Ludibrium
Immune to being teleported when offline
  • Go to Free Market
    • you get kicked outside the Zakum or Toad map if you don't
Inviting weird name spellings from whisper
  • H to open whisper window>Ctrl + C>close window>open party/guild window>invite>Ctrl V
Bossing
  • Dailies - Normal Zakum, Krex, Wulin, Toad
  • Low lvl Dailies - Normal Zakum + Krex
  • PB - Pink Bean
  • TB - The Boss
  • Hemp - Hard Empress
  • Ncht - Normal Horntail + Chaos Horntail (2 runs each)
  • Czak - Chaos Zakum
  • nzak - Normal Zakum
  • WT - World Tour
  • NWG - No Wait Green
  • PWG - Partial Wait Green
  • FCFS - First Come First Serve
  • Door- Mystic Door (Priest/Bishop)
  • Sed - Seduce (the sacrifice)
  • FM Buff - Buff in Free Market before going into Boss instance
  • Appo - Onyx Apple
  • Narc - Naricain Demon Elixir
  • Cheese - Ssiws Cheese
Buffs
  • SE - Sharp Eyes (Wind Archer, Marksman, Bowmaster)
  • SI - Speed Infusion (Thunder Breaker/Buccaneer)
  • HS - Holy Symbol (Bishop)
  • HB - Hyper Body (Dark Knight)
  • MU - Meso Up (Night Lord)
  • HSH - Holy Shield
General
  • PE - Power Elixir
  • CS - Cash Shop
  • 4-1 - Channel 4, Free Market 1
  • 1-12 - Channel 1, Free Market 12
  • Smega - Super Megaphone
  • Rock - VIP Teleport Rock
  • 2/0 gamble - Pay nothing until you pass, pay 2 WS when you pass
Scrolling
  • WS - white scroll
  • CS - Chaos Scroll
  • Slam - Chaos Scroll
  • CDS - Chaos Dragon Stone
  • Perfected items - scrolled with 15% & WS
  • CSS - Clean Slate Scroll
  • CSS50 - 2 x CSS20 + 1 x CSS10
Crafting
  • RoT - Rock of Time
  • 10/14 - 10 att above base from crafting
  • 16/24 - 16 att above base from crating AND leveling (2 att/level | 5 levels total)
Can't click anything?
  • Resize your chat window any way you want and try clicking again :)
Can't equip necklace?
  • Unequip monster codex and re-equip after
Major input delay in full screen?
  • alt + enter to switch to window mode> drag other clients around
  • enter full screen on first client again
  • /find Berbie - Stalk people
  • @mapr - claim maps to prevent getting mobs KS'd/looted
  • @whodrops "item" - tells you which mob(s) drop the item you want
  • @dropsfrom "mob" - tells you what items drop from a mob
  • @int - dumps all avaialble AP into INT. (works for other stats too)
  • @track
    • Puts a yellow arrow on your head (good for bossing)
    • Type again to remove
  • @fx -
    • Hides Smegas
    • Hides Gachapon Smegas
    • Hide people's skills & damage lines during bossing (SUPER F****** IMPORTANT)
  • @cd - check how many more runs you have for APQ, CWKPQ, all bosses
  • @ephey - Useful if you don't want to click the green button
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    @Miu - Opens portable potion NPC if you own the item
Type @commands in-game for full list of possible commands
  1. Put ANY skill (e.g. Magic Guard or Booster) into a Macro slot
  2. Type the command (e.g. @ephey) into "Create My Own Skill Name" box
  3. Hit OK
Hotkey that Macro
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Berbie

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Great guide! Learnt quite a bit of things.
Thank you!

Some updates have been made since yesterday:
  • Added the EXP chart and level brackets for the Ephey Weeklies section.
  • Added a spoiler on how to Macro commands like @ephey or @track into a hotkey
  • Revamped the Other meta classes section completely (I advise you check it out if you didn't make a bishop already ^_^)
  • Added mandatory Amorian Basket for non-mage classes going full primary stat
  • Added explanation to Family section
 
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First of all as a Night Walker, all of 3.5 of us are offended haha. I do have to kinda disagree in general. You should play whatever is fun to you and not the optimal / meta class to play. I know a lot of us are used to servers who have incredibly stale meta, but this server is a bit different considering skill changes are a lot more frequent (which is a good thing). Your chosen class might be better next patch, who knows? It can lead to interesting experiences as well. In 2013 I started playing on some server (that is still running to this day). I made a Corsair without knowing anything about them because I never got to play them. A few months after that I became top 2 Corsair for a while and made a name for myself, only slipping off top 10 after a year or so (cause I quit a lot). If I followed the meta, I'd probably just be a common NL. Come to find out they're just at strong as them or even stronger in certain situations. There's magic in going blind and not knowing what to expect. Following a meta and focusing on too much min maxing sucks the fun out of it. I do appreciate the humor in this thread though.

Few questions regarding bishops -
  • Make ~60m/hr
How?
  • Level new characters with EASE
So do you recommend making a new account for bishop? because I've heard arguments against it (mainly that leech is not as good and you lose BoF points).
 
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First of all as a Night Walker, all of 3.5 of us are offended haha. I do have to kinda disagree in general. You should play whatever is fun to you and not the optimal / meta class to play.
Funny thing, NW actually has pretty positive points in my thread.

My second main is a NW, and I would have quit it or not for the funding I had from my main for pots/gears. I can only imagine how much slower NL takes to get to 130 to boss without poison training.

I’m not saying to only play bishop, but it’s super optimal for your experience if you make it your first character.

New players don’t know which classes are fun to them yet, a lot of them just pick what looks cool or other people’s recommendations.

That’s why I said what looks cool might not be optimal for a FIRST character.

So they should give bishop a try and if what they find fun happens to align with the meta, then great. They shouldn’t avoid it just because people tell them mage are boring.

In regards to mages, I find they just skip many annoying parts of the game and idk if that’s considered fun, but it’s at bare minimum not annoying.

It’s usually demotivating to noobs and makes them prone to quitting if they pour time into
their first character to realize they level slow and require funds that they do not have, they will be stuck

Bishop is more of a foundation character that makes the remaining experience more smooth.
There's magic in going blind and not knowing what to expect. Following a meta and focusing on too much min maxing sucks the fun out of it. I do appreciate the humor in this thread though.
Sure it can be, but I guarantee you that leveling a NL or Corsair as a first character is the farthest thing from fun and many would agree because they made the mistake of doing that.

The game basically starts at 130 when you do bosses and these two classes suffer until th

Minmaxing definitely can take the fun out of things, but that’s why I’m saying to try bishop first character. If you like it, great. If not, use it to fund your second character.

And that’s also why I said it’s your choice at the end of the day, but don’t complain if you’re three days into Corsair/NL and can’t survive the turtle race to 130.

i appreciate your el
Few questions regarding bishops -
  • Make ~60m/hr
How?
  • Level new characters with EASE
So do you recommend making a new account for bishop? because I've heard arguments against it (mainly that leech is not as good and you lose BoF points).
Bishops use Genesis to farm at ulu or skeles, with ulu requiring less Magic to 1 hit.
Most of the money comes from vendor int the equips that drop from the mobs.

I would say to make a bishop on a separate account than your other classes so that you can power lvl them.

BOF isn’t a big deal if you don’t plan on maining your bishop.

It’s mostly for getting your other characters to 130.
 
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Funny thing, NW actually has pretty positive points in my thread.

My second main is a NW, and I would have quit it or not for the funding I had from my main for pots/gears. I can only imagine how much slower NL takes to get to 130 to boss without poison training.

I’m not saying to only play bishop, but it’s super optimal for your experience if you make it your first character.

New players don’t know which classes are fun to them yet, a lot of them just pick what looks cool or other people’s recommendations.

That’s why I said what looks cool might not be optimal for a FIRST character.

So they should give bishop a try and if what they find fun happens to align with the meta, then great. They shouldn’t avoid it just because people tell them mage are boring.

In regards to mages, I find they just skip many annoying parts of the game and idk if that’s considered fun, but it’s at bare minimum not annoying.

It’s usually demotivating to noobs and makes them prone to quitting if they pour time into
their first character to realize they level slow and require funds that they do not have, they will be stuck

Bishop is more of a foundation character that makes the remaining experience more smooth.

Sure it can be, but I guarantee you that leveling a NL or Corsair as a first character is the farthest thing from fun and many would agree because they made the mistake of doing that.

The game basically starts at 130 when you do bosses and these two classes suffer until th

Minmaxing definitely can take the fun out of things, but that’s why I’m saying to try bishop first character. If you like it, great. If not, use it to fund your second character.

And that’s also why I said it’s your choice at the end of the day, but don’t complain if you’re three days into Corsair/NL and can’t survive the turtle race to 130.

i appreciate your el

Bishops use Genesis to farm at ulu or skeles, with ulu requiring less Magic to 1 hit.
Most of the money comes from vendor int the equips that drop from the mobs.

I would say to make a bishop on a separate account than your other classes so that you can power lvl them.

BOF isn’t a big deal if you don’t plan on maining your bishop.

It’s mostly for getting your other characters to 130.
I enjoy early game, sometimes a lot more than late game. It's usually because in other servers once you reach 120 there's a severe lack of content. So a slow early game is more than fun for me, actually, as both someone who's playing a NW and a Sair, haha. And early game doesn't really matter that much. Mushroom Kingdom > EPQ > PPQ > RnJPQ > Gallos etc. Leaves not a lot of difference between classes honestly. But whatever. That's your experience and if you've had a bad time, warning other people is valid. Making a bishop is a rule of thumb in these versions, there's literally almost no reason not to do it. But after starting off with bishops for so long, planning so far ahead is too much of a chore in my opinion. Just play whatever you want, I personally pick classes I haven't played with before.

By the way when you're referring to new players - are you referring to players who are new to PSMS or players who are new to the server? because I'm talking about players who are new to the server, not the game.
 

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I enjoy early game, sometimes a lot more than late game. It's usually because in other servers once you reach 120 there's a severe lack of content.
I enjoy early game as well, especially the 10-30 questing. I also enjoy gallos & skele mobbing with FMA. There's something satisfying seeing 15 monsters explode into a pile of loot in an instant and seeing your exp bar ramp up.

That's true. Once you hit 130, it's just daily bosses/czak/ht until you're 170 for hoh.
So a slow early game is more than fun for me, actually, as both someone who's playing a NW and a Sair, haha.
Pretty sure most people do not prefer a slow early game nor would they intentionally choose it and I'm not talking about PQing levels otherwise they'd play on a server with lower exp rates.
And early game doesn't really matter that much. Mushroom Kingdom > EPQ > PPQ > RnJPQ > Gallos etc. Leaves not a lot of difference between classes honestly.
Yes, everyone basically shares the same early game since they just PQ until ~lvl 80.

But by early game I was referring to the exp disproportionately slowing down for sair/NL when they reach gallsos/skele mobbing(89-140) which is crucial for getting into bossing. I don't know if you still count that as mid-game as where we draw the line is arbitrary, but to most people that is still early game because it's prior to bossing.

There is a tremendous leveling speed difference between FMA classes at gallos/skele and classes that don't have fma at those levels.
As someone who's gotten bishop, blaze wizard, night walker, dark knight, and wind archer past 130, I can confirm this.

Leeching wise, everyone is the same speed, but I don't think you were referring to that.
But whatever. That's your experience and if you've had a bad time, warning other people is valid.
It's not about having a bad time, it's keeping the facts 100. If there's classes that level faster than another and reaps significantly more benefits, I'm going to say it like it is.

It is up to the newbie to decide whether they want to minmax. If they didn't care about efficiency, then they wouldn't be looking at guides in the first place and be blindly choosing classes and doing random skill builds.
Making a bishop is a rule of thumb in these versions, there's literally almost no reason not to do it. But after starting off with bishops for so long, planning so far ahead is too much of a chore in my opinion. Just play whatever you want, I personally pick classes I haven't played with before.
Basically, you can't go wrong with Bishop. Everyone's idea of fun is different, but many would agree that handicapping sticking points are not fun.

Again, bishop is more of a foundation character to fund/level your other characters. If you don't value time/efficiency as much, start with NL/sair.
By the way when you're referring to new players - are you referring to players who are new to PSMS or players who are new to the server? because I'm talking about players who are new to the server, not the game.
I'm talking about players new to private servers as well because the meta still applies.

There's various other games they could be playing instead of an older version of MS in an age of mobas and battle royales.

The goal is to make them stay. But being out leveled drastically by your peers despite investing the same amount of time is a sure fire way to make yourself quit. Especially, in an age of instant gratification regardless if they're 25+ playing for nostalgia.
 
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You should add Brief's 10-30 guide:
No offense but it's way faster than yours
While it is faster, a new player cannot afford to spam VIP rocks like that lmao

Also, I have two other leveling guides as well.
 

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Thanks for sharing! Need to note this guide isn't for new players though since they can't get the ETCs as easily.
Yea, basically what I was thinking. On top of the teleport rocks being way out of a new player's budget.

Wish I knew about your guide though when leveling up my alts!! :x
 

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sigh, so another Bishopstory server, so disappointed. I just recently joined the server and I was told on the discord server that you can play any class you enjoy on this server, especially if the class has a useful party buff, so you can join in the boss runs and fund yourself, guess not. I was so excited when I learned that unlike in royal or legends that I had to play something I hate before going for what I truly wanna play, I can actually play what I love and fund myself through Actually playing the game instead of hanging on a ladder AFKing. Well, what a massive letdown. But nothing against this guide tho, I think it's a great guide you are just stating the facts. Thanks for letting me know about this before I invest too much time on here.
 

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sigh, so another Bishopstory server, so disappointed. I just recently joined the server and I was told on the discord server that you can play any class you enjoy on this server, especially if the class has a useful party buff, so you can join in the boss runs and fund yourself, guess not. I was so excited when I learned that unlike in royal or legends that I had to play something I hate before going for what I truly wanna play, I can actually play what I love and fund myself through Actually playing the game instead of hanging on a ladder AFKing. Well, what a massive letdown. But nothing against this guide tho, I think it's a great guide you are just stating the facts. Thanks for letting me know about this before I invest too much time on here.

Dailies gives you up to 4 ws a day. Pretty sure you can self fund without using a bishop. As long as you have SE/SI/HB, you can get into a pt easily (in that order)
 

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sigh, so another Bishopstory server, so disappointed. I just recently joined the server and I was told on the discord server that you can play any class you enjoy on this server, especially if the class has a useful party buff, so you can join in the boss runs and fund yourself, guess not. I was so excited when I learned that unlike in royal or legends that I had to play something I hate before going for what I truly wanna play, I can actually play what I love and fund myself through Actually playing the game instead of hanging on a ladder AFKing. Well, what a massive letdown. But nothing against this guide tho, I think it's a great guide you are just stating the facts. Thanks for letting me know about this before I invest too much time on here.
I haven't funded my self (shadower claas) through a mage and just mostly bossing with some meso farming. I wouldn't say I am super far behind compared to others my lvl with a mage, so if you don't want to play mage then just skip mage.

While holy symbol is also meta for exp gain in my experience most people are willing to run bosses without it.
 

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sigh, so another Bishopstory server, so disappointed. I just recently joined the server and I was told on the discord server that you can play any class you enjoy on this server, especially if the class has a useful party buff, so you can join in the boss runs and fund yourself, guess not. I was so excited when I learned that unlike in royal or legends that I had to play something I hate before going for what I truly wanna play, I can actually play what I love and fund myself through Actually playing the game instead of hanging on a ladder AFKing. Well, what a massive letdown. But nothing against this guide tho, I think it's a great guide you are just stating the facts. Thanks for letting me know about this before I invest too much time on here.
I made a bishop first on this server and can’t say how much I regretted it, absolute waste of time. Just play a SE/SI class and you can get into parties just as easily as a BS
 

Berbie

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sigh, so another Bishopstory server, so disappointed. I just recently joined the server and I was told on the discord server that you can play any class you enjoy on this server, especially if the class has a useful party buff, so you can join in the boss runs and fund yourself, guess not. I was so excited when I learned that unlike in royal or legends that I had to play something I hate before going for what I truly wanna play, I can actually play what I love and fund myself through Actually playing the game instead of hanging on a ladder AFKing. Well, what a massive letdown. But nothing against this guide tho, I think it's a great guide you are just stating the facts. Thanks for letting me know about this before I invest too much time on here.
Actually, the others are correct in terms of you can make your first class anything you want. I'm sure you can have fun if you try out a first character. This server is definitely way more fun than royals I can tell you that unless you actually enjoy hp washing and low mob density/spawn rates. The unique ephey features and weeklies make this server shine so much, so much incentive to do them for free NX. ability to tp to fm from anywhere, move faster on ropes, useful commands.

Any class with FMA will always level faster than those without on pretty much any private server cuz fma is OP, so keep that in mind. Other classes are only considered slow leveling when compared to something that is OP.
Actually playing the game instead of hanging on a ladder AFKing. Well, what a massive letdown.
To be fair, leeching is no where near as important here as it is on servers like Royals because it is nerfed. It is only for lazy people who want to level up other characters while still progressing on their initial one.

I made a bishop first on this server and can’t say how much I regretted it, absolute waste of time. Just play a SE/SI class and you can get into parties just as easily as a BS
LMAO I can't believe so many people hate playing bishop
 

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This is a good guide; some of my other ideas:

Step 1. Make a BS and BW together
Step 2. Use fam system and put BW on top of BS (while putting MU below BS)
Step 3. Grind like crazy and gain reps
Step4. BS+BW duo mage farm 2x drop at ulu1
Step5. become Billionare
Step.6 Make MU mule
Step.7 Fall in love with farming
Step.8 Become next StevenLim
 
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Berbie

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This is a good guide; some of my other ideas:

Step 1. Make a BS and BW together
Step 2. Use fam system and put BW on top of BS (while putting MU below BS)
Step 3. Grind like crazy and gain reps
Step4. BS+BW duo mage farm 2x drop at ulu1
Step5. become Billionare
Step.6 Make MU mule
Step.7 Fall in love with farming
Step.8 Become next StevenLim
Thank you!

I did something like that by putting my characters in the same family under on another and became rich in reps.
I notice I get a lot of reps from leveling up at high lvls from bossing.

that’s so sweaty though, but I’d have to have a NL in dark sight on every platform to auto loot if I ever fma on multi client