Aran's next. Please.

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I have a regular Aran in my PB, he can do 1.3b++ without SI and 1.5b++ with SI. Aran is actually not as bad for single target. I'm very much surprised because DW is actually a lil worst than Aran. (No rush, no ranged skill)
 
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Aran is in a very good spot right now i would call it the perfect balanced class out there with strong cleave and good single target dps lol and Ye they might be a little bad in pb but thats just one boss and still can be cleared easily
If Aran is balanced, Drk is op as hell, i compare aran to other warrior classes.

I have a regular Aran in my PB, he can do 1.3b++ without SI and 1.5b++ with SI. Aran is actually not as bad for single target. I'm very much surprised because DW is actually a lil worst than Aran. (No rush, no ranged skill)
1.3B without Si means he is at least 30k clean aran, drk with same gear would hit 2b
 

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If Aran is balanced, Drk is op as hell, i compare aran to other warrior classes.



1.3B without Si means he is at least 30k clean aran, drk with same gear would hit 2b
yup if we compare any warrior class to dark knights then all warrior classes needs buffs lol or any class at all in term of dps but if we remove dark knight and rank the remaning warriors then aran is in good spot very good spot.

but anyways i do agree that they need to buff stance and make arans better in pb
 
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Aran rankings are looking kind of sad ngl

excluding 250's
xWLAranx hasnt leveled in a few days, so either break or quit
Irrelevant quit
Tiro quit
Hairi quit
idk about Calamansi or WolfBear
stickperson2 isnt active due to irl stuff iirc
iBin i think quit?
Beech quit?
Huski doesnt actively level
MilkTea i think quit
AD4RR i think still plays
Kaoru i think quit
Holistic i think quit
Dalkom idk
Enokee i think quit
and beyond that i dont really remember (if you are reading this and are an aran that hasnt quit yet, do you still like playing aran? pls comment.)

there are barely 60 people over lv 200 as an Aran now, and of those, maybe 10, 20 at most still play.

not a great comparison, but looking at thieves, theres well over 250 (276 of them at the time of this comment) people that are >200.

the only reason i still play is to hit 250, and not be a FaltaDanio kek. i already only plan to do 12~18man coin rushes in the morning and only MAYBE pink bean once i hit 250. empress is also a maybe. host nht/cht? meh not worth the hassle for 74 coins. oz? takes too long to be worth the coins



arans just suck ass to play. sure we got strong cleave, but holy **** is it annoying to keep cleaving when we get constantly knocked back, have to do pixel perfect positioning to efficiently cleave, and get stunned and lose our combos every like, 30 seconds~1minute or whatever.

yesterday in a 45~50 minute 6man CHT, i was knocked off my platform ~50 times, and stunned+lost my combo ~20 times. If I was any other warrior, id have been kb'd at most 10 times, and definitely less because other warriors do not have to facetank the boss to be efficiently cleaving. AND would just shrug off getting stunned.

"oh no i got stunned for 5 seconds, thats -5 seconds of dps for me" compared to "oh **** i got stunned for 5 seconds, lets pray to god i get hit by a wyvern so i can proc body pressure to save my combo. oh no i lost my combo, give me 10 seconds of cleaving to get back that 100 combo i need to get back to max dps"

not to mention getting knocked off the head platforms when there are no arms, so i need to race back up to the head within 5 seconds or else i lose my combo. again.



reeeee i hate arans. give 99% stance and nerf cht stun pls
 
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Krono

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1.3B without Si means he is at least 30k clean aran, drk with same gear would hit 2b

as a 31k clean aran, i did 1.6b in 58 minutes at PB, full narc, but because of how arans need to position, miss out on SE/SI half of the statue stage. i think i did about 5~700m? dmg to pb itself. i didnt track how much dmg i had done after stage 5

but yeah i think 1.3b should be around 28k clean
 

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as a 31k clean aran, i did 1.6b in 58 minutes at PB, full narc, but because of how arans need to position, miss out on SE/SI half of the statue stage. i think i did about 5~700m? dmg to pb itself. i didnt track how much dmg i had done after stage 5

but yeah i think 1.3b should be around 28k clean
anyways, aran suck :(
Huski doesnt actively level true story
 

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anyways, aran suck :(
Huski doesnt actively level true story
Just because someone doesnt level actively doesnt mean they dont enjoy/like their class(not saying its his case) for example i play other classes and since i hit 210+ BM/ 200+ NL i find it really boring to sit on HoH for hours for exp. Arans do more than fine in bossing (except for pb)
 
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Just because someone doesnt level actively doesnt mean they dont enjoy/like their class(not saying its his case) for example i play other classes and since i hit 210+ BM/ 200+ NL i find it really boring to sit on HoH for hours for exp. Arans do more than fine in bossing (except for pb)
chen is Huski btw.

and the problem isnt really "we do more than fine" in bosses, its that playing an aran is so fucking annoying
 
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chen7897

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Just because someone doesnt level actively doesnt mean they dont enjoy/like their class(not saying its his case) for example i play other classes and since i hit 210+ BM/ 200+ NL i find it really boring to sit on HoH for hours for exp. Arans do more than fine in bossing (except for pb)
well im huski so it is true, leveling a class to almost 230 and than realizing you made a mistake really sucks...

chen is Huski btw.



and the problem isnt really "we do more than fine" in bosses, its that playing an aran is so fucking annoying

100% true, while bossing with aran you need to be so focused and you cant talk cant do anything because the combo loss is over the corner, very annoying while stunned, falling down (95% stance) and asking for buffs.
people want us to come to them for SE/SI/HS but they dont know we just be loosing ton of dps if we leave targets..
 

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well im huski so it is true, leveling a class to almost 230 and than realizing you made a mistake really sucks...




100% true, while bossing with aran you need to be so focused and you cant talk cant do anything because the combo loss is over the corner, very annoying while stunned, falling down (95% stance) and asking for buffs.
people want us to come to them for SE/SI/HS but they dont know we just be loosing ton of dps if we leave targets..

Agreed. The problem with the current state of Aran is QoL.

> 95 % (60%) stance for a class that requires it the most ??
> Shared combo skill keys (restart character- combo temptest/ Combo barrier blocks drain, affecting dpm)
> Long duration stuns = combo killer (can mitigate with body pressure but again rip stance)
>General pain in the ass to play (spamming of keys ) for which the class should be rewarded with above average damage)
> Damage reflect potentially combo killer (requires alot of attention to maintain combo throughout DR)
> PB is ice resistant (make it neutral for added 10% damage ). Why does this feel targeted.
> Heavily reliant on SE and SI w.o providing either buffs. (I get out dpm on wulin without se by a weaker drk..at WULIN)
> Aran move forward with every attack so we are always on top of the boss. Which is on paper is great but with the aggro issue + DR animation + confuse. I am quite often then not forced to swing at air and reposition when pb moves > due to aggro issues. Please remove the movement.

Little QOL stuff that will improve Aran gameplay without breaking them. I agree with hopefully combo counter reducing X amounts every X seconds instead of losing everything.

Please don't give input based solely on theorectial charts cause we are literally the furthest from it
 
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idk about Calamansi or WolfBear
clamansi still playing pretty sure wolfbear too
and its realy sad that so low number at those level still playing on aran
 

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aran single target is horrible, nl with 13k clean range hit more than 25k clean aran in pb..
Arans are built to cleave, not for single target damage. There is a reason why they top the charts at bosses that are not krex, toad, or pb, which are single target bosses.

Comparing NL and Aran already disqualifies this entire suggestion because you're comparing classes. They have completely different play styles and skill designs, including their intended amount of targets.

Of course a single target dps class would outdo a non single target dps class at a single target dps boss. In fact, NL ranges work extremely differently from Aran ranges.

There are so many factors that would legitimize a NL outdpsing an Aran at pb.
 

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Aran stance is only 90% and has been for a very long time.
95%* but yeah if all other warriors have 99%, I don't see why arans shouldn't also have 99%.

I have some hot takes about stance being 99% but that's not for this thread.
 

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XML:
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giga scammed wtf

  • Increased Aran's level 30 Freeze Standing chance to proc from 90% to 95%
 
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XML:
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F. bug report time? is this inside skill.wz?